Our 2023-2024 Southern Migration Trip

[Jim]

Trish told me the high is going to be 72. What glorious words. I think I'll trim my banana tree today.

 

[Rich W.]

Trish told me the high is going to be 72. What glorious words. I think I'll trim my banana tree today.

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Sounds like you’re adapting

 

[Rd1]

I’ve been unable to determine why Silverleaf says “No AC Input”. Checked breakers, fuses and even changed from the Oasis Node Board to the backup board they leave attached to the Oasis (on Silverleaf models)

Waiting on a return call from the Oasis folks.

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The info provided is limited, so some of the questions may seem irrelevant.

The 'No AC Input' is a normal message. It indicates, either there is no 110v available, or when there is 110v, the oasis fluid is at temp, hence the AC elements are turned off. When oasis fluid temp drops below set min, the AC elements will turn on.

I see the burner appears to be off? Have you tried the burner to see if it functions?

Simple question, is there hot water? also, is the SL configured for primary heat, secondary heat or both?

You may also want to verify the SL settings to make sure all is setup correctly

 

[Jim]

The info provided is limited, so some of the questions may seem irrelevant.

The 'No AC Input' is a normal message. It indicates, either there is no 110v available, or when there is 110v, the oasis fluid is at temp, hence the AC elements are turned off. When oasis fluid temp drops below set min, the AC elements will turn on.

I see the burner appears to be off? Have you tried the burner to see if it functions?

Simple question, is there hot water? also, is the SL configured for primary heat, secondary heat or both?

You may also want to verify the SL settings to make sure all is setup correctly

I believe the Oasis temp is at temp. I say this because when I grab hold of the two red hoses that go into and out of the main unit, they are hot.

The burner functions, at least for a little while. I've heard it once in a while, but it only runs for a few minutes and then shuts off.

No hot water. Silver leaf was configured for both, but over the last couple of days, I've tried all configurations.

The only thing that has changed recently, is I no longer get a Zone Fault message at the top of the SL. It now says "Zones OK", "Heater OK", and "No AC Input".

Called a couple of mobile mechanics, but nobody wants to work on the Oasis for some reason.

 

[Rich W.]

I believe the Oasis temp is at temp. I say this because when I grab hold of the two red hoses that go into and out of the main unit, they are hot.

The burner functions, at least for a little while. I've heard it once in a while, but it only runs for a few minutes and then shuts off.

No hot water. Silver leaf was configured for both, but over the last couple of days, I've tried all configurations.

The only thing that has changed recently, is I no longer get a Zone Fault message at the top of the SL. It now says "Zones OK", "Heater OK", and "No AC Input".

Called a couple of mobile mechanics, but nobody wants to work on the Oasis for some reason.

Have you tried installing a maintenance kit? The five year kit has everything but there are 1 and 3 years kits avail (you probably already know this) but the point is you may have a bad flame sensor and the good news is that it’s undoubtedly maintenance issue and the work is easy and, dare I say, fun. Ok at least not unpleasant. So thats my rec - lots of how to videos ( guess thats called DIY these days) on you tube etc.

 

[Rd1]

I believe the Oasis temp is at temp. I say this because when I grab hold of the two red hoses that go into and out of the main unit, they are hot.

The burner functions, at least for a little while. I've heard it once in a while, but it only runs for a few minutes and then shuts off.

From your description, it sounds like, the oasis is upto temp. If the red hoses are hot, the oasis fluid is hot enough, hence the elec elements have no need to turn on and likewise, the burner kicks in for a short burst, then the fluid is hot enough, so it goes off. That all sounds normal.

For your oasis heat you may want to leave the oasis SL config to secondary heat source.
Also, have you tried to turn the summer loop on? If not, turn it on, see if that helps with hot water and oasis heat.

 

[Rd1]

I'd also attempt a complete reset, just for try. reset the oasis and the SL

 

[Neal]

Amazon product ASIN B01N75RKTE
ehhh, 5 year service kit out of stock, 1 year service kit is available

Amazon product ASIN B015GBQGH8
You don't need a mechanic or look for a RV mobile tech. You can do this yourself with some YouTube research first. It's not a complicated system.

On the side wall of the OASIS system is your distribution panel with LED lights. On top of that is a switch to override the system, i.e. forcibly run all pumps. Have you tried turning that ON and see what happens?

 

[Rich W.]

From your description, it sounds like, the oasis is upto temp. If the red hoses are hot, the oasis fluid is hot enough, hence the elec elements have no need to turn on and likewise, the burner kicks in for a short burst, then the fluid is hot enough, so it goes off. That all sounds normal.

I hadn’t thought of that. When the flame sensor is bad it only runs for a couple seconds.

@Jim watch this and you’ll be all set to do your own Oasis work:


This is where I’ve always bought service kits:

High-Quality Oasis Annual Service Kits | Hydronic Heating Warehouse

Looking for reliable and high-quality annual service kits for your Oasis heating system? Look no further than Hydronic Heating Warehouse. We offer a wide selection of service kits that include all the necessary replacement parts and components to keep your system running efficiently & reliably...

hydronicheatingwarehouse.com

 

[MemoriesByTheMile]

If there isn’t an error on the Oasis, and the Oasis isn’t running the heat in the coach, then it seems like there is a problem in the thermostat/SL that is preventing a signal from being sent to the Oasis to run the coach heat.
I don’t know the fancy SL type controls as our coach has the older thermostat on the wall setup.

 

[Jim]

Thanks guy's! I can't do much of anything until I get the coach back from Freightliner. NIRVC was unable to determine what was causing the previously mentioned SPN 3363 FMI 16 code, and suggested it may be something that won't happen again. But that wasn't the case, and it reared its ugly head as we entered Florida. So now Freightliner can take a stab at it. Hopefully I'll have it back to get to Key West on time.

 

[Jim]

I hadn’t thought of that. When the flame sensor is bad it only runs for a couple seconds.

@Jim watch this and you’ll be all set to do your own Oasis work:


This is where I’ve always bought service kits:

High-Quality Oasis Annual Service Kits | Hydronic Heating Warehouse

Looking for reliable and high-quality annual service kits for your Oasis heating system? Look no further than Hydronic Heating Warehouse. We offer a wide selection of service kits that include all the necessary replacement parts and components to keep your system running efficiently & reliably...

hydronicheatingwarehouse.com

Excellent video, thank you so much Rich! I had no idea servicing these things was so simple.

 

[Rich W.]

Excellent video, thank you so much Rich! I had no idea servicing these things was so simple.

They can be intimidating at first but once you get into them its not bad at all. I was surprised by that too. One less thing you have to pay to have done.

 

[MemoriesByTheMile]

It takes less time to perform annual service than it does to call and wait on hold to setup an appointment.

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

Thanks guy's! I can't do much of anything until I get the coach back from Freightliner. NIRVC was unable to determine what was causing the previously mentioned SPN 3363 FMI 16 code, and suggested it may be something that won't happen again. But that wasn't the case, and it reared its ugly head as we entered Florida. So now Freightliner can take a stab at it. Hopefully I'll have it back to get to Key West on time.

Cummins ISX15 CM2250 (2010-12) Fault Code: 1713 PID: SPN: 3363 FMI: 16 Aftertreatment 1 Diesel Exhaust Fluid Tank Heater- Data Valid But Above Normal Operating Range- Moderately Severe Level - EcuForce Truck

The diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) tank heating coil is internal to the DEF tank.

www.ecuforcetruck.com

 

[Jim]

My rig's been sitting at Ocala Freightliner for the last two days. Wow, what an experience. The girl who answers the phone and also works the front desk, has apparently been to Freightliner school and excels in doing everything possible to be unhelpful.

My coach needed a DEF heating unit, about $1,000 at a dozen other places, but Ocala Freightliner is charging me $1,920.44. Then to install this friggen piece of gold, I have to pay another $1,125.00. Not sure, but I don't think there are more than a handful of bolts to remove/replace, a few hoses to clamp, and then clear the code.

So total out the door cost of doing business with Ocala Freightliner will be $4,147.95. I understand everyone has to make a profit, but this is crap.

 

[purring along]

Jim I can't believe the bad luck your having, and wish there was something I could help you with. A friend and also my mechanic said he could remove all the def junk on my coach for 25 hundred,and it would run much better and last longer. I said I didn't want to take a chance of getting in trouble. Your colorful explanation of the freightliner employees was priceless!

 

[John&Andrea]

I hate to hear about your troubles. All your hard work to have a nice place we can all enjoy, you both deserve your time to relax. Hang in there, better days ahead.

 

[Neal]

My rig's been sitting at Ocala Freightliner for the last two days.

What was the reason you took it there? Are they an OASIS branded FL location (meaning RV service center)? I hope it's not a misdiagnosis and you called 800-FTL-HELP for their guidance.

 

[MemoriesByTheMile]

For that price difference I would be considering driving it to a different location to save the extra $1.5k-$2.0k
Sorry you are going through this.

Dave